The call by the Antipope Bergoglio for The Church to beg the forgiveness of sodomites for having offended them, while nauseating, is not entirely shocking.
The real shocker in the latest airplane interview is Antipope Bergoglio CONFESSING LUTHERANISM.
After reading this, how can we possibly, possibly believe that this man is the Vicar of Christ, and that there is “no way we can know” his status? To confess Lutheranism is to not be Catholic. For Bergoglio to be the Pope requires that he be a CATHOLIC. So, we are firmly into Principle of Non-Contradiction territory yet again. Bergoglio can not be both Catholic and not Catholic. His confession in the presser is Lutheran.
Kleinjung: Too much beer … Holy Father, I wanted to ask you a question. Today you spoke of the gifts of the shared Churches, of the gifts shared by the Churches together. Seeing that you will go in I believe four months to Lund for the commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the reformation, I think perhaps this is also the right moment for us not only to remember the wounds on both sides but also to recognize the gifts of the reformation. Perhaps also – this is a heretical question – perhaps to annul or withdraw the excommunication of Martin Luther or of some sort of rehabilitation. Thank you.
Pope Francis: I think that the intentions of Martin Luther were not mistaken. He was a reformer. Perhaps some methods were not correct. But in that time, if we read the story of the Pastor, a German Lutheran who then converted when he saw reality – he became Catholic – in that time, the Church was not exactly a model to imitate. There was corruption in the Church, there was worldliness, attachment to money, to power…and this he protested. Then he was intelligent and took some steps forward justifying, and because he did this. And today Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err. He made a medicine for the Church, but then this medicine consolidated into a state of things, into a state of a discipline, into a way of believing, into a way of doing, into a liturgical way and he wasn’t alone; there was Zwingli, there was Calvin, each one of them different, and behind them were who? Principals! We must put ourselves in the story of that time. It’s a story that’s not easy to understand, not easy. Then things went forward, and today the dialogue is very good. That document of justification I think is one of the richest ecumenical documents in the world, one in most agreement. But there are divisions, and these also depend on the Churches. In Buenos Aires there were two Lutheran churches, and one thought in one way and the other…even in the same Lutheran church there was no unity; but they respected each other, they loved each other, and the difference is perhaps what hurt all of us so badly and today we seek to take up the path of encountering each other after 500 years. I think that we have to pray together, pray. Prayer is important for this. Second, to work together for the poor, for the persecuted, for many people, for refugees, for the many who suffer; to work together and pray together and the theologians who study together try…but this is a long path, very long. One time jokingly I said: I know when full unity will happen. – “when?” – “the day after the Son of Man comes,” because we don’t know…the Holy Spirit will give the grace, but in the meantime, praying, loving each other and working together. Above all for the poor, for the people who suffer and for peace and many things…against the exploitation of people and many things in which they are jointly working together.
“He did not err.”
Bergoglio has all along thrown massive, massive hints that it is Lutheranism that he admires, and Catholicism that he desipses. Bergoglio from literally his first Mass has gone out of his way to NOT reverence the Eucharist. He does not, as policy, genuflect before Our Lord in the Eucharist – including at the consecration of the Host and Chalice at Mass. He does not participate in the Corpus Domini procession in Rome – instead driving in a car from the Lateran Basilica to Mary Major. He mocks the Rosary, and holds in scathing contempt the “colonialists” and the Spanish Crown which converted millions and millions of human souls from some of the most overtly satanic pagan paradigms ever seen on earth, to the One True Church, almost exactly concurrent with the Lutheran revolt which he openly gushes over in the remarks above.
And then, there is this:
“What is reconciliation? Taking one from this side, taking another one for that side and uniting them: no, that’s part of it but it’s not it … True reconciliation means that God in Christ took on our sins and He became the sinner for us. When we go to confession, for example, it isn’t that we say our sin and God forgives us. No, not that! We look for Jesus Christ and say: ‘This is your sin, and I will sin again’. And Jesus likes that, because it was his mission: to become the sinner for us, to liberate us. “
Now compare Antipope Bergoglio’s words above to this quote from Luther:
“Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides… No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day.”
(ref. ‘Let Your Sins Be Strong, from ‘The Wittenberg Project;’ ‘The Wartburg Segment’, translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther’s Saemmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99, 1 Aug. 1521. – Cf. Also Denifle’s Luther et Lutheranisme, Etude Faite d’apres les sources. Translation by J. Paquier (Paris, A. Picard, 1912-13), VOl. II, pg. 404))
It also bears repeating Luther’s thoughts on marriage, given Antipope Bergoglio’s enthusiasm for fornication, adultery and serial concubinage:
“It is not in opposition to the Holy Scriptures for a man to have several wives.”
(ref. De Wette, Vol. 2, p. 459).
And finally, this: Luther or Antipope Bergoglio?
“What I teach and write remains true even though the whole world should fall to pieces over it”
(Luther- ref. Weimar, Vol. 18, Pg. 401).
My full essay, “Luther, in His Own Words” can be found HERE. It is worth a review given the fact that the Antipope has just confessed Lutheranism, and I suspect will, in fact, attempt to rehabilitate Luther more in the coming months as the 500th anniversary of the Lutheran Revolt is reached.
Remember, all of this – ALL OF THIS – is fully explainable, and the Church remains indefectible and spotless Bride of Christ, if one simply acknowledges the objective reality that Jorge Bergoglio is not now and never was the Pope. Pope Benedict XVI Ratzinger remains the one and only living Vicar of Christ, whether he believes it, or likes it. Pope Benedict XVI Ratzinger could no more bifurcate the papacy than I could. Ratzinger’s mind is not the arbiter of reality, much less supernatural reality. And neither is mine – reality is reality, and it is my job to conform my rational intellect to it, and the Principle of Non-Contradiction is a foundational plank in that conformation. I cannot, in good conscience, violate the Principle of Non-Contradiction. Calling Jorge Bergoglio “The Vicar of Christ” REQUIRES violation of the Principle of Non-Contradiction, therefore, the premise CANNOT be true. It cannot be included in the domain of “The Real”.